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Hi, hope you'll forgive the slight necroing of this thread, but I feel it deserves a revisit. I also agree with @2g00d4uthat lower lvl DKSQ is key to keeping new/returning players interested, especially when DKSQ is probably one of the best if not most enjoyable features of Dekaron that was originally intended to be available to players at all levels. Would it be possible to just remove the ability to earn purchase points from DKSQ and cap the highest rank players can obtain at say, lvl 190? Let me know if this has been suggested already though. Could we also get a list of things that have already been tried from staff so we can make suggestions around this? In terms of further reasons that I believe this should be revisted, my reasons are below: I feel it's even more important now to keep newer players interested as the number of active players over the last couple of weeks seems to be dropping compared to March and April, or at least during the times that I'm on, there's been noticeably much fewer items listed in the agency compared to the huge server breaking increase in players we saw in March and April, especially with the lockdown, where a lot of old players such as myself were coming back. Since then quite a few players that I began playing with have stopped playing again citing that they just got bored of farming without any real pvp, and the majority of those players were already playing other games that either had a better grinding experience or they were already max geared on, so they were essentially coming back for a taste of the old pvp. I know for myself being in the same situation as them and I believe this would apply to the majority of new and returning players too, that being able to pvp in lower lvl DKSQ would give us more motivation to play, lvl up and max gear our characters as it gives us a taste of our character's potential in end game DKSQ, PTM, BR and weekly pvp events. While there have been great patches for end/near-end game players (Shangri-la part 2, DKSQ ranking revamp, etc.) these often did not apply to many of the new/returning players to keep them interested as they did not yet have gear to enjoy this. From my own perspective as a returning player (I came back from 7 yrs ago where lvl 171 was max or very high lvl and there were no egutt +9 drops), I've always really missed Dekaron because of the pvp, I miss the 3 max geared characters I had on the previous Dekaron Uprising server and was working on maxing my 4th before life and other games took over, so I was looking forward to getting back into pvp again, which meant it was a little disapppointing when I found out that on my grindy road to max gear, there wasn't anywhere I could enjoy pvp on a more level playing field. DF would most of the time be a massacre by the GP group. (PTM and BR I understand and agree that players should be a total utter liability to their team/free kill to their opponents unless they farmed up/made both max gear and good accessories). I currently have one full tera class that can do fine in DKSQ but I've realised while it's good for farming I don't really like its playstyle so I'm working on lvling and gearing a 2nd class for end-game pvp. While I don't mind grinding to a certain extent, it was bearable on Dekaron because I could enjoy the occasional break by going to DKSQ, but it's a lot more difficult when grinding is all I could do until I'm geared enough to not be a 2-skill rollover in DKSQ, so I'm often deciding between hopping to a new game when the grinding starts driving me insane, or finding other ways of enjoying Dekaron such as learning and lvling a new class, but even this experience is a bit dull without the availability of low lvl pvp to explore the class potential and decide if I want to max lvl+gear it for end game pvp. Ultimately, I believe bringing back lower lvl DKSQ in a way that prevents illegal farming (and I believe this can be done if we put our heads together) will be beneficial to all players including end-game, with more motivation for newer players to reach end-game there will also be a more active end-game pvp community, and this also means end-game players won't need to be shouting 'PUSH BR/PTM/DKSQ' as much. Thanks for reading if you read all the way! Would be good to hear more thoughts from everyone on a lower lvl DKSQ that is exploitation proof, especially from newer players or recently returned players, but of course I realise that those players might not be on forums as much.
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Too much dil in game the way it is currently, the last patch addressed that somewhat by removing some of the Shadowkris from Parca. The issue with introducing more ways to get dil is the price of sets will continue to rise and rise. We do not want to see 500b sets and if we continue pushing pure dil drops into the game that is where it will go.
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I think it'd be a good idea to have more ways of farming dil that doesn't rely on other players having to buy the items you farmed - these ways should of course be balanced so that it earns the same amount of dil/hour as other options already available. This would be good for all the players who do not have the time or opportunity throughout their day to leave their PC/laptops open to vend. Also, while there is currently Mitera dil drops and the 4x shadowakris in Parca (usually always taken by a farmer though), some variety would imo stop players from getting bored a lot quicker with grinding and shifting to other games with a more varied grinding experience, as some of the players I know have. The end goal in Dekaron and where the best fun is has always been in pvp imo, and with lower lvl DKSQ removed so that newer players can no longer enjoy pvp as a break from grinding, then atleast if the grinding experience could be improved with more variety, I believe it'd be of benefit to the player community.
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Can you make solo dungeons where we can earn dils? Probably revamp treasure of crespo and increase dil drop to 1-5m per treasure box That would help a lot of newbies earn dils and compete with people.
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(A) = 10b OR VS (P) =10b OR VS (H) =3b or VS (V2 SEGU )= 12b (V2 DK) = 15b
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Hello rokiux1122 Thank you for showing interest in Balance and thank you for your suggestion. I will discuss this with the rest of the Staff Team.
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Dear Rising staff, I was talking to a few current players and came to a conclusion that in order to have an impartial balance of the classes, a representative of each class should be involved in the decision process, rather than the majority or a single person. Obviously, the final decision would lay on the shoulders of the staff, however the system would introduce an equal pull for each class as well as it would standardize the balance level as the similar quality of players would be considered. I believe that the representatives should be elected through a public voting, with the staff holding a veto right. I’m aware of the past experience with the balance team being inactive, however the problem would be solved by the agreement that the majority of the team could initiate a replacement procedure of a representative. I believe the system would provide a more representative balance as well as it would take some weight of the staff’s shoulders. @Dannyboi
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Everyone was welcome to share their opinions and feedback on this thread not just the DK players. We also did a bunch of PvPs with Dragon Knight and still concluded to postpone the rework for now. This doesn't mean it won't happen though. Just check out the next balance patch notes and then do some more pvps against Dragon Knight in game after that, then we'll bring the discussion back up.
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FOR TRADE ITEMS ONLY!!! ________________________________ TRADING ALL THIS FOR DK [A][P] 200 PERF HAMMER MAIL ME!! _______________________________ FOR SALE ITEMS ONLY !!! = 25B = 65B = 25B BOTH OR 15B EA
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90% of the people who said its fine are DK players themselves. Of course theyre gonna say its fine and a nerf isnt necessary lol. Get yourself a couple guys of each class who are really good at playing their class and let them pvp eachother while you guys observe and analyse. Stop asking braindead people for their opinion on forums. A class has to be balanced around the TOP players not the average scrub. If you buff around the majority of players who cant pvp for shit, a couple players will dominate the entire PvP on the server cause they can abuse the broken state of a class.
